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Deferral Programs

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    • #19360
      Michelle HarrisMichelle Harris
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      We had our first salary deferral this pay and was wondering how many organizations provide access to “Defined” or “Un-defined” programs. Municipal Pension Plan when I contacted them had not had a “case” so I am interested to see how many other organizations do this. It is a very administrative process so I can see why not too many places to provide the option.

    • #19373
      Kathryn HillKathryn Hill
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      I worked for a company that decided to have a “summer workday” program (work 4 days in the summer), so employees got every Friday off all summer and then they were to work extra time each week in the September to December period to offset the hours they did not work in the summer. Sounded good on paper but it was a nightmare for HR and Payroll staff. This was in a company with over 1200 employees! If an employee left the company or went on Maternity or sick leave with EI, I had to recalculate every summer pay cheque, adjusting CPP, EI and taxes and then adjust their final pay, record of employment etc. I have not had specific experience with “salary deferrals” but the key is to ensure the rules of the program are clear up-front so everyone knows the consequences of choosing to defer salary.

      • #19381
        Michelle HarrisMichelle Harris
        Participant

        eeek 1200 people!!! That would be a huge administration nightmare! Especially when the funds have to be held in a separate trust account and they earn the interest on that money!!

    • #19866
      Martina Heine, PLPMartina Heine, PLP
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      At my previous Employer, there was a prescribed deferred salary program. The terms and conditions had to comply with the requirements of the Income Tax Act and Income Tax Regulations. A percentage of an employee’s annual gross salary could be deferred and there was a minimum and maximum leave period. The amount of salary deferred was not included in their income in the year it was earned, but rather when it was paid on their leave of absence.

      • #21632
        Michelle HarrisMichelle Harris
        Participant

        This can definitely get convoluted! With the different types of deferrals….I hope we don’t have one again for a long time!

    • #19872
      Harman Dhatt PCPHarman Dhatt PCP
      Participant

      This is a significant liability and requires a lot of admin work. There are chances of errors as well. We don’t provide this option in our company.

      • #21631
        Michelle HarrisMichelle Harris
        Participant

        Yes there is definitely huge admin time just for one…. Couldn’t imagine more than one!

    • #21601
      Heather ShawHeather Shaw
      Participant

      We offer a deferral program. Only 2 employees have taken advantage of it in 10 years. 20% of their salary, pre-tax, is put into a trust fund each month for 5 years. In the sixth year, they are paid 1/12th of what’s in the trust account, including interest. When we pay them the deferred amount, we take the source deductions.

      • #21635
        Michelle HarrisMichelle Harris
        Participant

        Is that a prescribed deferral ? Do you have collective agreements?

        • #21737
          Heather ShawHeather Shaw
          Participant

          We have Collective Agreements but it is an internal Administrative Procedure that outlines how the deferral plan works.

    • #24160

      I work in the education sector and salary deferral programs are in the Collective Agreements and we administer them. They are a lot of work and there is perhaps about 40% of those that start the program that subsequently cancel. There are a number of employers that charge an administrative fee to those that cancel, my employer does not. There are many taxing rules that require additional configuration such as the taxing, CPP and EI with respect to the deferral amount. Our Municipal Pension Plan requires its member to pay both shares of their pension while on this leave whereas the Teachers Pension Plan does not.

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